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    Punishment expresses deserved censure for wrongdoing, and... — Carmelics
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    Challenges→Any adequate justification of punishment must be basically consequentialist.

    Punishment expresses deserved censure for wrongdoing, and desert-based responses can be morally obligatory independent of their consequences.

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    • 1.Moral agents deserve responses proportional to their culpable wrongdoing, independent of downstream effects or utility calculations.
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    • 2.Expressing censure through punishment respects the dignity of wrongdoers by treating them as responsible moral agents, not merely objects to be manipulated.
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    • 3.A purely consequentialist approach to responses allows punishing innocents if beneficial, violating core justice principles.
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    • 1.Desert claims lack objective grounding—what constitutes 'deserved' censure remains deeply contested across moral frameworks.
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    • 2.Ignoring consequences means inflicting suffering with no beneficial purpose, which seems difficult to justify as morally obligatory.
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    • 3.Rehabilitation and deterrence often better protect communities than expressive punishment, making desert-focus potentially counterproductive.
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