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    Punishment severity is properly measured by the objective... — Carmelics
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    Challenges→Retributivists who fail to consider variation in offenders' actual or anticipated experiences of punishment are punishing disproportionally.

    Punishment severity is properly measured by the objective deprivation imposed, not subjective experience, ensuring equal treatment under law.

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    • 1.Objective measures (years imprisoned, fines) are verifiable and reproducible, preventing arbitrary disparities based on judges' subjective interpretations.
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    • 2.Equal punishment for equal crimes respects human dignity by treating all citizens as having comparable worth, regardless of their psychological resilience.
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    • 3.Subjective experience varies unpredictably by personality, mental health, and circumstance, making it an unreliable basis for proportional sentencing.
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    • 1.Punishment's moral purpose is to impose deserved suffering; ignoring actual harm experienced defeats retributive justice's core rationale.
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    • 2.A fine of $10,000 devastates a poor person but barely inconveniences a millionaire—equal objective deprivation masks unequal actual punishment.
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    • 3.Law should aim to reduce crime; ignoring how differently people experience consequences undermines deterrence and rehabilitation effectiveness.
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