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    Quine's thesis of the indeterminacy of translation establ... — Carmelics
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    Challenges→The simultaneous replacement of multiple ideas in a proposition yields a uniquely determined variant proposition

    Quine's thesis of the indeterminacy of translation establishes that no unique proposition is determined by a mapping between expression-sequences without a prior translation manual fixing reference.

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    • 1.Behavioral evidence underdetermines mental content: identical physical behavior permits multiple incompatible interpretations of referential intent.
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    • 2.Translation manuals are conventional tools reflecting choice among empirically equivalent alternatives, not discoveries of pre-existing facts.
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    • 3.Without independent access to speakers' internal states, translation must remain parasitic on interpretive frameworks we construct, not uncover.
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    • 1.Indeterminacy confuses epistemological limits with metaphysical conclusions; ignorance about uniqueness doesn't prove uniqueness doesn't obtain.
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    • 2.Successful inter-linguistic communication and translation practice demonstrate determinate reference works despite Quine's theoretical worries.
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    • 3.The argument assumes radical holism about meaning; more modest compositional theories permit determinate reference without complete translation manuals.
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    Key Terms

    Expression-sequences(what gets mapped between languages)
    Groups of words or sentences strung together in a language; basically, the actual strings of text you're trying to translate.
    Mapping(how Achinstein connects properties between the two subjects)
    In logic, this means connecting or matching one thing to another by showing how they correspond—like saying 'this property in swans works the same way as that property in line segments.'
    Quine(as a proper name referring to the philosopher whose theory is being discussed)
    Willard Van Orman Quine was a 20th-century American philosopher who wrote about how we know things and how language works. In this statement, we're discussing one of his specific ideas about observation.
    Reference (in philosophy of language)(what the translation manual must fix to make translation work)
    What a word or expression points to or stands for in the world—for example, the word 'dog' refers to actual dogs.
    Translation Manual(what's needed to fix a translation's meaning)
    A set of rules or guidelines that decides how to translate words and phrases from one language to another and what those words actually refer to.
    indeterminacy of translation(philosophy of language, opposed to Collingwood's re-enactment thesis)
    Quine's claim that it is not possible to achieve determinacy in translation
    proposition(Used in the context of a semantic theory sensitive to differences in subject matter.)
    The content expressed by a sentence, individuated at least in part by the subject matter of the sentence and the contents of its subsentential expressions.

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