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    Challenges→Trinitarian problems of self-consistency vanish.

    Relative identity (Geach) requires a sortal concept under which items are identical, but 'God' and 'person' yield contradictory identity facts for the same pairs.

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    • 1.If Jesus is identical qua God but not qua person, relative identity explains how one entity satisfies both divine and human properties without contradiction.
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    • 2.Absolute identity requires that all true identity statements hold under every concept, making trinity and incarnation logically incoherent.
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    • 3.Relative identity is linguistically natural: 'same car' and 'same parts' can differ, showing identity genuinely depends on sortal context.
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    • 1.Relative identity violates the transitivity of identity: if A=B under sortal S and B=C under sortal T, A should equal C absolutely, not conditionally.
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    • 2.The claim that 'God' and 'person' yield contradictory identity facts assumes these are proper sortals, but 'God' may be a property or role, not a sortal.
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    • 3.Alternative solutions (e.g., composition, essential properties) explain incarnation without abandoning absolute identity and its logical simplicity.
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