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    Rhetoric must be developed as a technê (systematic craft/science)

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    • 1.Philosophy aims at true definitions and true stories based on them
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    • 2.Philosophy also aims at persuasion, since the philosophical lover wants to persuade his interlocutor to follow the path to the forms
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    • 3.Philosophy and rhetoric must go together
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    • 1.Plato's Gorgias explicitly classifies rhetoric as a mere 'knack' (empeiria) that flatters rather than aims at genuine good.
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    • 2.A technê requires knowledge of causes and essential natures, but rhetoric operates through probability and audience psychology alone.
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    • 3.Systematizing a practice that lacks a proper subject matter and truth-directed telos produces sophisticated flattery, not genuine craft.
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    • 1.The philosophical lover's persuasion in the Phaedrus operates through erotic awakening and dialectic, not rhetorical technique directed at mass audiences.
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    • 2.Collapsing the distinction between dialectical persuasion of a single soul and rhetorical address to crowds conflates Plato's carefully maintained methodological boundary.
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    Philosophy aims at true definitions and true stories based on them. But it also aims at persuasion, since the philosophical lover wants to persuade his boy to follow him on the path to the forms. Philosophy and rhetoric must thus go together, which means that rhetoric, too, must be developed as a technê. It must, first, distinguish and give definitions of the various kinds of souls and kinds of speeches, revealing their respective capacities and susceptibilities, and, second, “coordinate each ki
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