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    It is not the case that s1 is not absolutely identical to s2 (s1 ≠ s2).

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    Reasons For

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    Reason for 1 of 2
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    • 1.If s1 and s2 share all spatiotemporal properties and are composed of the same matter at every moment, Leibniz's Law yields identity, not distinctness.
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    • 2.The weak relative identity view lacks principled criteria distinguishing 'different statues' from 'different descriptions of one statue', undermining P1.
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    Reason for 2 of 2
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    • 1.Geach argued that all identity claims are sortal-relative, so 'absolutely identical' is not a coherent predicate against which s1 ≠ s2 can be measured.
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    • 2.If absolute identity is incoherent as a standard (following Geach's relative identity thesis), the conclusion s1 ≠ s2 in absolute terms is ill-formed rather than false.
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    Reasons Against

    1 perspective
    Reason against
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    • 1.s1 and s2 are different statues.
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    • 2.On the weak view, different statues are absolutely distinct.
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