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    Schopenhauer and Buddhist philosophy identify suffering as intrinsic to will and desire, which adaptation cannot eliminate.

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    • 1.Empirical observation shows desire always generates dissatisfaction: satisfaction is temporary, then new desires arise.
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    • 2.Even when external conditions improve, hedonic adaptation returns happiness levels to baseline, confirming suffering's structural source.
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    • 3.Will (the striving force) is intrinsically restless by nature; its cessation requires denying life itself, not environmental change.
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    • 1.Humans report sustained contentment through meaningful pursuits; if suffering were intrinsic to desire, satisfaction would be conceptually impossible.
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    • 2.Buddhist practice aims at extinguishing craving, not proving suffering is inevitable—suggesting suffering is contingent, not intrinsic.
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    • 3.Adaptation's limits don't prove suffering is inherent to will; they may show only that material adaptation alone is insufficient for wellbeing.
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