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    Scripture's penal substitution framework in Romans 6:23 g... — Carmelics
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    Supports→if the above is true, then Scripture argues that the payment for sin is finished with death

    Scripture's penal substitution framework in Romans 6:23 grounds the 'wages of sin' in biological death, not ongoing torment.

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    • 1.Romans 6:23 uses 'wages' (misthos), implying earned compensation, which death naturally provides as termination, not eternal process.
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    • 2.Jewish apocalyptic literature contemporaneous with Paul emphasizes physical resurrection/restoration, suggesting death as the primary consequence.
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    • 3.Penal substitution requires Christ's death to satisfy the penalty; if penalty were eternal torment, His three-day death wouldn't parallel it.
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    • 1.Matthew 25:46 and Revelation 20:10 explicitly describe 'eternal punishment' and 'forever and ever' torment, requiring harmonization with Romans 6:23.
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    • 2.'Wages of sin' may mean separation from God (spiritual death), which could coherently entail ongoing conscious torment, not mere cessation.
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    • 3.Early church fathers (Origen, Augustine) interpreted Romans 6:23 within eternal punishment frameworks, suggesting alternative readings are plausible.
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