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    It is not the case that Searle's failure to understand Chinese while operating the Chinese Room does not show that understanding of Chinese is not being created.

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    • 1.Searle's argument requires that the agent of understanding be the computer itself or the person operating the Chinese Room.
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    • 2.The answers to Chinese questions are not Searle's answers — Searle is not the author of those answers.
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    • 3.Searle's beliefs, desires, memories, and personality traits are causally inert in producing the answers to Chinese questions.
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    • 1.Functionalist accounts (Putnam, Block) identify mental states with functional roles, not with the substrate or individual implementing them.
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    • 2.The Chinese Room system as a whole instantiates the correct functional organization for Chinese understanding, regardless of Searle's ignorance.
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    • 3.Searle's introspective report about his own understanding is irrelevant to whether the system-level functional organization constitutes understanding.
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    • 1.Dennett's heterophenomenology holds that conscious understanding is properly attributed at the level of the whole intentional system, not its components.
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    • 2.No single neuron in a human brain 'understands' English, yet their collective organization produces genuine understanding in the person.
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    • 3.By parity of reasoning, Searle's lack of Chinese understanding no more defeats system-level understanding than a neuron's ignorance defeats human cognition.
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