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    It is not the case that Self-forgiveness serves two important self-regarding purposes.

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    Reason for 1 of 2
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    • 1.Self-forgiveness that bypasses the victim's judgment risks entrenching moral self-satisfaction rather than genuine moral repair (Murphy's 'self-love' objection).
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    • 2.Restoring one's own moral agency is a self-regarding benefit that cannot substitute for the victim-centered relational work that forgiveness properly requires.
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    Reason for 2 of 2
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    • 1.On Kantian grounds, the wrongdoer and the wronged party are distinct moral subjects, so no single agent can coherently occupy both the granting and receiving roles of forgiveness.
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    • 2.What self-forgiveness describes is more accurately characterized as self-acceptance or self-reconciliation, making the 'self-forgiveness' label a conceptual confusion rather than a genuine moral category.
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    Reasons Against

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    • 1.Self-forgiveness serves the purpose of restoring wrongdoers to full moral agency even in the absence of the victim's forgiveness.
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    • 2.Self-forgiveness constitutes a second-best alternative to full interpersonal forgiveness, in the sense that when full interpersonal forgiveness is not forthcoming, self-forgiving is nevertheless an important and sometimes morally appropriate response to having done wrong.
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