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    It is not the case that Sensory experience reliably tracks relational properties of movements (faster/slower, approach/recession) even if not their intrinsic nature.

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    • 1.Illusions of motion (apparent movement in static images) show sensory systems mistrack relational properties, contradicting reliability claims.
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    • 2.The distinction between 'relational' and 'intrinsic' properties collapses under scrutiny—velocity just is an intrinsic kinematic property.
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    • 3.If sensory experience cannot access intrinsic natures, the claim that it reliably tracks relational ones becomes epistemically unverifiable.
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    • 1.Comparative judgments (faster/slower) require only differential sensitivity, not knowledge of absolute velocities or underlying physical mechanisms.
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    • 2.Evolutionary success depends on detecting relational changes relevant to survival, not comprehending intrinsic properties inaccessible to perception.
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    • 3.Physics shows relational properties are observer-dependent; sensory systems evolved to track what matters for action, not mind-independent intrinsic natures.
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