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    It is not the case that Sentient individuals possess interests in avoiding suffering that exist independently of any community membership or ecological function.

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    • 1.Interests are fundamentally relational constructs that arise only within contexts of meaning-making and value-assignment systems.
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    • 2.A sentient being's capacity to suffer depends on cognitive frameworks shaped by social and ecological embeddedness, not raw sensation.
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    • 3.Framing interests as prior to community membership obscures how suffering itself is interpreted through collective schemas.
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    • 1.Suffering is a direct experiential harm to the subject experiencing it, independent of external recognition or utility.
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    • 2.If interests require external validation to exist, then beings could have no interests while isolated, which is counterintuitive.
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    • 3.We attribute interests to wild animals to explain their behavior, even those with no community ties or ecological role.
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