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    Simon's account therefore conflates the causal trigger of... — Carmelics
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    Challenges→The agent intellect makes the quiddity in the sensory representation universal and immaterial through abstraction

    Simon's account therefore conflates the causal trigger of intellection with the subject of intellection, undermining personal cognitive responsibility.

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    • 1.Causal triggers (external stimuli) and subjects (agents) are metaphysically distinct categories that should not be conflated in responsibility frameworks.
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    • 2.If what triggers thinking is identical to who thinks, then agents cannot be held accountable for thoughts arising from external causes beyond their control.
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    • 3.Personal cognitive responsibility requires that the agent (subject) be distinguishable from whatever merely initiates cognitive processes.
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    • 1.The trigger-subject distinction may be artificial; causation often involves agent-internal processes that blur the boundary between external cause and responsible subject.
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    • 2.Responsibility doesn't require independence from causal triggers—it requires agents to integrate external inputs through their own cognitive capacities responsibly.
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    • 3.Simon's view might correctly show that intellection always requires initiating conditions, without this undermining responsibility for how agents process those conditions.
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