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    Society does not have a moral claim on its members' labor... — Carmelics
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    Society does not have a moral claim on its members' labor, talents, or virtue that compels contribution to societal well-being regardless of harm to the individual

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    • 1.Individuals frequently fail to contribute their full labor or special talents to society without incurring moral blame
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    • 2.If failure to contribute fully does not generate moral blame, then full contribution cannot be morally required
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    • 3.Individuals are not morally required to benefit society in every way they are capable, regardless of harm to themselves
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    • 1.Membership in political society generates reciprocal obligations grounded in the receipt of ongoing benefits and protections (Rawls, TJ §19).
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    • 2.Where one's continued existence constitutes a necessary condition for discharging those obligations, self-destruction can constitute a defection from fair cooperative terms.
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    • 3.The moral permissibility of a self-regarding act cannot be established solely by appealing to the absence of blame for lesser omissions of the same duty.
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    • 1.On Kantian grounds, rational agency is the condition of possibility for all moral value, creating a duty to preserve it that is not reducible to individual preference (Groundwork 4:429).
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    • 2.A duty grounded in the preconditions of morality itself is categorically distinct from contingent social demands, and survives the objection that society lacks proprietary claims over labor or talent.
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    A second brand of social argument echoes Aristotle in asserting that suicide is a harm to the community or the state. One general form such arguments take is that because a community depends on the economic and social productivity of its members, its members have an obligation to contribute to their society, an obligation clearly violated by suicide (Pabst Battin 1996, 70–78, Cholbi 2011, 58–60). For example, suicide denies a society the labor provided by its members, or in the case of those wit
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