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    Something can have happened without it ever being true to say of it 'It is happening'

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    • 1.'These men have married' can be true even though there was never a time when 'These men are marrying' was true
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    • 2.Each man married at a different time, so no single moment captures the event as ongoing for all of them simultaneously
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    • 1.Aristotle's Categories (4a10-4b19) establishes that tensed predications require an underlying present actuality to ground their truth conditions.
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    • 2.A completed action like 'have married' is ontologically parasitic on discrete past present-tense facts: each man's marriage was true as 'is marrying' at its own moment.
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    • 3.The distributive reading of the plural subject dissolves the paradox: 'these men have married' is just the conjunction of individual perfects, each grounded in its own present-tense truth.
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    • 1.Frege's context principle holds that the semantic value of a sentence is determined compositionally from its parts evaluated at a time, making tenseless present-tense truth unavoidable.
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    • 2.If 'it is happening' was never true for any subject at any time-index, the perfect-tense report lacks the truthmaker required by correspondence theories from Russell onward.
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    • 3.Denying that tensed facts ground perfect-aspect claims collapses the distinction between 'has happened' and 'is alleged to have happened,' undermining the evidential force of the perfect tense entirely.
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    But can it be true that something, in this case motion, has happened, when it was never true to say of it ‘It is happening’? Yes, replies Diodorus (Sextus, 10.97–100): for example, ‘These men have married’ may be true despite the fact that there was never a time when it was true to say of them ‘These men are marrying,’ since they each married at a different time. This supporting argument, drawn from Diodorus’s logical arsenal, sits comfortably with the assumption that the staccato theory of moti
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