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    It is not the case that Something that is not intrinsically bad for a person may nevertheless be extrinsically bad for her.

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    • 1.Extrinsic badness requires a causal chain terminating in intrinsic harm; without intrinsic harm at the end, no genuine badness obtains.
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    • 2.If witnessing the accident causes no actual suffering or welfare setback, classifying it as 'extrinsically bad' conflates causal potentiality with actual disvalue.
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    • 3.On G.E. Moore's organic unities view, value must be grounded in actual realized states, not merely possible downstream effects that may never materialize.
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    • 1.The distinction between intrinsic and extrinsic badness, as Korsgaard argues in 'Two Distinctions in Goodness,' tracks conditionality, not causal derivation.
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    • 2.If extrinsic badness is simply whatever causally produces intrinsic harm, then virtually any event becomes extrinsically bad for someone, rendering the category explanatorily vacuous.
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    • 3.A philosophically useful concept of extrinsic badness must impose principled constraints beyond mere causal contribution to harm.
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    • 1.Something that is not intrinsically bad for a person might nevertheless make other things happen that are detrimental to her.
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    • 2.Seeing somebody fall and break her arm is not intrinsically bad for a person, but it might cause her painful sadness, which makes the accident she saw extrinsically bad for her.
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