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    It is not the case that Sound-mindedness is some sort of quietness (hesuxiotes).

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    • 1.Aristotle identifies sophrosyne with the rational governance of appetites, not with external behavioral quietness (NE III.10-11).
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    • 2.A person can exhibit perfect outward quietness while harboring disordered desires, thus lacking genuine sound-mindedness.
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    • 3.Conflating the behavioral symptom of a virtue with its constitutive essence commits the sign-for-thing fallacy Plato warns against in the Charmides.
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    • 1.The Stoics held that sound-mindedness (sophrosyne) is an epistemic disposition—correct judgment about what is truly choiceworthy—not a behavioral disposition.
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    • 2.Quietness is a contingent expression that can characterize vice as easily as virtue, as in the calculated stillness of the coward or the deceiver.
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    • Walking in the streets quietly and orderly is behaving sound-mindedly.
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    Reason against 2 of 3
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    • Dialoguing quietly and orderly is behaving sound-mindedly.
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    Reason against 3 of 3
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    • Doing everything quietly and orderly is behaving sound-mindedly.
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