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    Spinoza's model of determination cannot capture individuals as other than parts of a greater whole.

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    • 1.For Spinoza, finite modes are determined solely by their external relations to other modes within the one infinite substance.
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    • 2.A thing determined entirely by relations external to it has no immanent principle of individuation — it is constitutively dependent on the whole.
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    • 3.What lacks an immanent principle of individuation cannot be genuinely individual but only a functionally demarcated region of a greater totality.
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    • 1.Spinoza's conatus doctrine defines each mode's essence as a striving to persist, but this striving is itself a finite expression of God's infinite power.
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    • 2.If a mode's defining activity is merely a bounded quantum of the whole substance's power, its apparent individuality is ontologically derivative, not self-grounding.
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    • 3.Hegel's Logic demonstrates that any determination that is wholly negative — being X by not being Y — collapses into identity with what it negates, precluding stable individuation.
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    • 1.Spinoza's method models itself on Plato's method of division, dividing a genus concept into species by differentiating properties.
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    • 2.This top-down division treats individuals only as parts resulting from the division of a prior whole.
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    In general this is how the Logic proceeds: seeking its most basic and universal determination, thought posits a category to be reflected upon, finds then that this collapses due to a contradiction generated, like that generated by the category being, and so then seeks a further category with which to make retrospective senses of those contradictory categories. However, in turn the new category will generate some further contradictory negation and again the demand will arise for a further concept
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