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    Supports→Either we must accept moral skepticism about the objective badness of pain, or we must understand the intrinsic badness of pain as not being objective in the strong stance-independent sense.

    Stance-independent objectivity requires that a truth hold independently of any evaluative stance.

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    There are two ways to go if one wishes to defend the possibility of moral knowledge against the argument from moral objectivism. One is to reject the concept of stance-independent objectivity as a necessary condition on moral truth. Studies show that even young children after a certain age make an intuitive distinction between conventional demands and moral demands (Nichols 2004). Basic moral demands unlike conventional ones are taken to be independent of authority (for example, that of a teache

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