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    States ought to transfer part of their sovereignty to the... — Carmelics
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    States ought to transfer part of their sovereignty to the federal level while retaining sovereignty over internal affairs

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    • 1.Sovereignty can be conceived as layered rather than monolithic
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    • 2.The part of sovereignty concerning external relations to other states can be separated from the part concerning internal affairs
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    • 3.Overcoming the state of nature among states requires federal-level authority over external relations
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    • 1.Sovereignty is indivisible: delegating any portion to a superior authority transforms the remaining 'sovereignty' into mere administrative autonomy.
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    • 2.Bodin and Hobbes establish that a sovereign subject to external override on any matter is no longer sovereign but a subordinate jurisdiction.
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    • 3.The claim's 'layered sovereignty' therefore describes not federal division but the abolition of state sovereignty disguised by gradualist language.
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    • 1.The distinction between 'external' and 'internal' affairs is practically incoherent, as trade, migration, and environmental policy are simultaneously both.
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    • 2.Hegel argues that a state's internal ethical life (Sittlichkeit) is constitutively expressed through its foreign relations, making the separation artificial.
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    • 3.Granting federal authority over 'external' matters thus inevitably penetrates internal self-determination, collapsing the premise on which the claim rests.
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    Some critics argued in response that Kant’s position was inconsistent, because on their view, the only way to fully overcome the state of nature among states was for the latter to enter into a federative union with coercive powers. The early Fichte transformed the concept of sovereignty in the process, by conceiving it as layered, and this enabled them to argue that states ought to transfer part of their sovereignty to the federal level, but only that part that concerns their external relations
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