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    Suicide can constitute a violation of role obligations ap... — Carmelics
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    Suicide can constitute a violation of role obligations applicable to spouses, parents, caretakers, and loved ones

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    • 1.Suicide can cause clear economic or material harm when the suicidal person leaves behind dependents unable to support themselves financially
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    • 2.Spouses, parents, caretakers, and loved ones have distinctive obligations to those who depend on them
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    • 1.Role obligations are grounded in ongoing relational capacity; a person in terminal suffering or severe mental illness may already be unable to fulfill those roles.
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    • 2.An obligation that cannot be discharged without condemning an agent to unbearable suffering exceeds the legitimate scope of role-based moral demands.
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    • 3.Therefore, the existence of dependents does not automatically generate an obligation to continue living if the agent lacks the capacity to meaningfully fulfill the role.
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    • 1.Mill and later liberals argue that self-regarding acts, including choices about one's own death, fall outside the domain where others' interests generate enforceable obligations.
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    • 2.The harm to dependents from suicide is contingent and indirect, distinguishable from direct violations like abandonment or breach of contract recognized in deontological frameworks.
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    • 3.Conflating grief-based harm with role-obligation violation improperly expands the scope of duty in ways Kant himself resisted, since Kant grounded the suicide prohibition in duties to self, not to others.
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    No doubt the suicide of a family member or loved one produces a number of harmful psychological and economic effects. In addition to the usual grief, suicide “survivors” confront a complex array of feelings. Various forms of guilt are quite common, such as that arising from (a) the belief that one contributed to the suicidal person’s anguish, or (b) the failure to recognize that anguish, or (c) the inability to prevent the suicidal act itself. Suicide also leads to rage, loneliness, and awarenes
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