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    Suicide does not constitute treating oneself unjustly — Carmelics
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    Suicide does not constitute treating oneself unjustly

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    • 1.A voluntary act that harms only oneself is consensual
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    • 2.Consensual harm to oneself cannot be an injustice done to oneself
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    • 1.Consent cannot be given by a future self who is permanently silenced by the act consented to, undermining the voluntariness condition.
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    • 2.Aristotle held that suicide wrongs the polis by depriving the community of a member, suggesting injustice extends beyond self-regarding harm.
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    • 3.An act can constitute self-injustice when it violates duties one owes to oneself as a rational agent, as Kant argued in the Metaphysics of Morals.
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    • 1.If persons have inalienable interests in continued existence grounded in their rational nature, they cannot validly consent to extinguishing that nature.
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    • 2.What appears voluntary may reflect severely compromised rational agency, making the consent condition in P1 empirically defeasible in most actual cases.
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    Plato explicitly discussed suicide in two works. First, in Phaedo, Socrates expresses guarded enthusiasm for the thesis, associated with the Pythagoreans, that suicide is always wrong because it represents our releasing ourselves (i.e., our souls) from a “guard-post” (i.e., our bodies) the gods have placed us in as a form of punishment (Phaedo 61b-62c). Later, in the Laws, Plato claimed that suicide is disgraceful and its perpetrators should be buried in unmarked graves. However, Plato recognize
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