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    Suicide is disgraceful and its perpetrators should receiv... — Carmelics
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    Suicide is disgraceful and its perpetrators should receive dishonorable burial

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    • 1.Aristotle argues in Nicomachean Ethics V.11 that suicide wrongs the polis by depriving it of a citizen who owes duties to the community.
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    • 2.A virtuous person endures suffering courageously rather than abandoning social obligations, making self-destruction a failure of civic virtue.
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    • 3.Dishonorable burial rituals publicly mark the violation of communal bonds, reinforcing Aristotelian duties of citizens to the state.
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    • 1.Stoic cosmopolitanism holds that our rational faculty is a loan from the divine logos, which we are not entitled to unilaterally return.
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    • 2.Plato's Phaedo 62b frames the soul as a soldier at a post set by the gods, deserving censure for deserting without divine permission.
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    • 3.Ritual dishonor in burial serves an Aristotelian pedagogical function, shaping community virtue by marking which deaths exemplify proper rational agency.
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    • 1.Suicide is ordinarily an act of cowardice or laziness
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    • 2.Individuals who die by suicide are too delicate to manage life's vicissitudes
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    Plato explicitly discussed suicide in two works. First, in Phaedo, Socrates expresses guarded enthusiasm for the thesis, associated with the Pythagoreans, that suicide is always wrong because it represents our releasing ourselves (i.e., our souls) from a “guard-post” (i.e., our bodies) the gods have placed us in as a form of punishment (Phaedo 61b-62c). Later, in the Laws, Plato claimed that suicide is disgraceful and its perpetrators should be buried in unmarked graves. However, Plato recognize
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