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    Sweatshop wages are not too low — Carmelics
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    Sweatshop wages are not too low

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    • 1.Sweatshop wages, while low by developed-country standards, meet or exceed prevailing wages in the countries where sweatshops operate
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    • 2.Workers choose to work in sweatshops because sweatshop employment is the best offer available to them
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    • 1.The baseline of 'prevailing local wages' can itself reflect unjust structural conditions, making it an invalid benchmark for fair compensation.
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    • 2.Rawlsian justice requires evaluating wages against what workers would accept under fair background conditions, not under conditions of severe inequality.
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    • 3.When workers' only alternatives are subsistence farming or informal labor due to historical exploitation, 'voluntary choice' cannot confer moral legitimacy on low wages.
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    • 1.Kant's humanity formulation prohibits using persons merely as means, and wages set at subsistence level instrumentalize workers as cost inputs rather than ends in themselves.
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    • 2.A wage that cannot sustain basic human dignity fails the threshold condition for just compensation regardless of its market competitiveness.
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    There has also been a robust debate about whether workers in sweatshops are paid too little. Some say ‘no’ (Powell & Zwolinski 2012; Zwolinski 2007). They say that sweatshops wages, while low by standards in developed countries, are not low by the standards of the countries in which the sweatshops are located. This explains why people choose to work in a sweatshop; it is the best offer they have. Efforts to increase artificially the wages of sweatshop workers, according to these writers, is
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