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    It is not the case that The apparent openness created by conditional or vague prophecies is therefore an epistemic feature for human observers, not an ontological feature of the agent's freedom.

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    • 1.If reality itself contains determinate facts about future free choices, then those facts exist regardless of epistemic access.
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    • 2.Distinguishing epistemic from ontological openness assumes facts can be determinate yet unknowable—a philosophically contentious claim.
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    • 3.Human freedom requires that future outcomes genuinely depend on present choices, not merely that we perceive them as open.
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    • 1.Knowledge of future events needn't constrain present choices if the knower lacks causal influence over those events.
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    • 2.Humans cannot access God's complete knowledge, so vague prophecies preserve our epistemic position as genuinely open.
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    • 3.A being's freedom depends on whether their choices determine outcomes, not on whether another being knows those choices.
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