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    The application of probability concepts does not involve any presuppositions about the external world or the law of causality.

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    • 1.The calculus of probability is purely a priori.
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    • 2.The calculus of probability is solely derived from the concept of probability itself.
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    • 1.Applying probability to empirical events requires assuming that past frequencies are relevant to future outcomes, which presupposes causal regularity.
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    • 2.Hume's problem of induction shows that no purely a priori reasoning can license inference from observed to unobserved cases without causal assumptions.
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    • 3.Therefore, the application—as distinct from the formal calculus—necessarily imports presuppositions about the world's causal structure.
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    • 1.Frequentist interpretations of probability, defended by Venn and von Mises, define probability as the limiting frequency of events in physical sequences.
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    • 2.A limiting frequency is a fact about the external world, not a consequence derivable from the concept of probability alone.
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    • 3.Any application of probability under the frequentist interpretation thus presupposes stable, law-governed regularities in nature.
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    Stumpf did not publish any specific work on the topic of logic and wrote only a few pieces on language. These are however two topics in which Stumpf was very much interested. The topic of language was central in his 1876 paper on Anton Marty’s dissertation entitled Über den Ursprung der Sprache (A. Marty, 1875; L. Cesalli, 2015). Also worth mentioning is an essay on the psychology of music in England (1885) and his book Die Anfänge der Musik (1911) in which he discussed, in relation to Spencer a
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