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    The argument conflates two distinct senses of 'bring abou... — Carmelics
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    Challenges→If the libertarian theory of free will is correct, an omnipotent agent (other than Plato) cannot bring about (f), but Plato can.

    The argument conflates two distinct senses of 'bring about': direct causation and indirect actualization through circumstance-setting.

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    • 1.Direct causation requires agent involvement in the causal chain; circumstance-setting operates through agent absence from mechanism.
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    • 2.Moral responsibility differs between causing harm directly versus creating conditions enabling others to cause harm.
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    • 3.Philosophical analysis requires distinguishing mechanisms when they produce different logical and ethical consequences.
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    • 1.Both senses involve agent selection among options; the distinction is degree, not kind, making it semantically artificial.
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    • 2.Conflating senses may reflect ordinary language usage where 'bring about' legitimately covers both causal modes without confusion.
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    • 3.Without evidence the argument actually treats these senses as identical, calling it a conflation begs the question.
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