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    It is not the case that The argument from premises 1–3 to statement 4 is either sound but not heretical, or unsound due to invalidity

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    • 1.A dilemma framed as exhaustive may still be false if a third option exists: the argument is sound AND the conclusion is heretical by orthodox standards.
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    • 2.Nicene orthodoxy defines heresy functionally—if a valid argument entails three distinct Gods, it is heretical regardless of semantic reinterpretation.
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    • 3.Sabellianism and tritheism are both condemned heresies, so 'not heretical' cannot be secured merely by choosing one interpretation over another.
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    • 1.Peter Geach and Peter van Inwagen argue that relative identity dissolves the argument's invalidity charge by supplying a coherent reading where (4) does follow.
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    • 2.If relative identity renders the argument valid and the conclusion orthodox, the original dilemma collapses since it assumed validity and orthodoxy cannot both hold.
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    • 3.A dilemma is only as strong as the mutual exclusivity of its horns; showing a coherent reading that is both valid and non-heretical defeats the claim entirely.
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    • 1.Premises 1 and 2 are unclear and admit multiple interpretations
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    • 2.Under one interpretation the argument is sound but the conclusion is not heretical
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    • 3.Under another interpretation the argument is invalid because statement 4 does not follow from premises 1–3
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