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    It is not the case that The argument from universal desire commits a quantitative fallacy: widespread cross-cultural desires for vengeance, domination, or ethnic superiority are not thereby evidence of attainable goods a loving God designed humans to pursue.

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    • 1.The argument conflates base impulses with designed desires; universal desires for connection, justice, and meaning remain stronger evidence.
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    • 2.Humans universally desire food and sex; that these can be misused doesn't negate their status as designed goods for proper ends.
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    • 3.The quantitative fallacy objection assumes all universal desires are created equal; some (compassion, purpose-seeking) better reflect teleology.
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    • 1.Universal prevalence of a desire doesn't entail its goodness; humans universally desire tribalism, yet this often produces moral harm.
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    • 2.Evolution explains universal desires (dominance, in-group preference) through fitness benefits, not divine design for human flourishing.
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    • 3.If God designed humans to pursue vengeance and domination, divine morality would endorse these as goods, contradicting theodicy claims.
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