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    It is not the case that The argument that retributivism justifies punishment better than consequentialism is not conclusive.

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    • 1.The argument that retributivism justifies punishment better than consequentialism presupposes that punishment is justifiable.
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    • 2.The argument presupposes that there are no alternatives that are better than both retributivism and consequentialism.
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    • 3.Both of these presuppositions can be challenged.
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    • 1.Retributivism's core justification—that punishment is deserved—is circular, as 'desert' presupposes the very moral framework it claims to ground.
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    • 2.H.L.A. Hart showed in 'Punishment and Responsibility' that no single theory fully justifies punishment's general aim and its particular distribution.
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    • 3.A justification that cannot stand without begging the question fails the basic standard of being 'better' than its rivals.
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    • 1.Restorative justice frameworks, as developed by Howard Zehr, provide victim-centered accountability without presupposing retributive desert or consequentialist calculus.
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    • 2.If a third framework can achieve punishment's legitimate aims more coherently, the retributivism-versus-consequentialism debate is rendered a false dilemma.
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    • 3.A comparative claim of superiority is inconclusive when the comparison class is artificially restricted to two rivals.
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