Skip to content
Carmelics
TopicsThinkersChangesContributorsLoading account…

    Carmelics

    A reasoning platform. Break down any belief into clear reasons, explore both sides, and weigh the evidence honestly.

    Navigate

    • Topics
    • Search
    • Recent Changes
    • Contribute
    • How It Works
    • Glossary
    • Thinkers
    • Contributors
    • About
    • Statistics
    • Terms
    • Privacy

    Database

    Statements
    —
    Perspectives
    —
    Topics
    —

    Press ? for keyboard shortcuts

    LoyalLoyalJusticeJustice
    Made withinDC&Austin
    The asymmetric dependence between property instances and ... — Carmelics
    Statements
    321,452
    Perspectives
    108,905
    Topics
    42
    Home/Philosophy of Language
    HistoryEditSee Inverse

    The asymmetric dependence between property instances and substances is best expressed in terms of particular instances rather than properties and substances in general.

    Modality & PossibilityPhilosophy of Language
    ?Rate how convincing each reason is below to see the overall strength.
    1 reason for
    2 reasons against

    Reasons For

    1 perspective
    Reason for
    ?
    • 1.Talking about properties in general and substances in general obscures the relevant ontological relationship.
      ?

      Think about whether this reason is strong or weak

    • 2.The dependence relation holds precisely between a particular property instance and the particular substance it belongs to.
      ?

      Think about whether this reason is strong or weak

    Reasons Against

    2 perspectives
    Reason against 1 of 2
    ?
    • 1.Universals, not tropes, best explain why distinct substances share genuinely identical properties, requiring type-level dependence relations.
      ?

      Think about whether this reason is strong or weak

    • 2.If dependence holds only between particulars, the systematic recurrence of qualitative similarity across substances becomes an unexplained brute fact.
      ?

      Think about whether this reason is strong or weak

    • 3.Armstrong's truthmaker theory grounds property instantiation in states of affairs involving universals, making particular-level dependence derivative rather than fundamental.
      ?

      Think about whether this reason is strong or weak

    Reason against 2 of 2
    ?
    • 1.Aristotelian substantial forms ground property instances at the species level, meaning the dependence relation is mediated by kind-membership, not bare particularity.
      ?

      Think about whether this reason is strong or weak

    • 2.Expressing dependence purely at the token level cannot account for why a particular redness instance depends on a substance *as a bearer*, rather than on its specific haecceity.
      ?

      Think about whether this reason is strong or weak

    Sign in or register to share your perspective on this statement.

    Next step

    Based on where you are in your exploration

    Strongest counterpoint
    Explore the most compelling reason on the other side.

    Topics

    Philosophy of LanguageModality & Possibility

    Connections

    1 topic

    Causation1 linked

    Related

    Aristotelian substantial forms ground property instances at the species level, m...Armstrong's truthmaker theory grounds property instantiation in states of affair...Expressing dependence purely at the token level cannot account for why a particu...If dependence holds only between particulars, the systematic recurrence of quali...
    +3 moreShow less
    Talking about properties in general and substances in general obscures the relev...The dependence relation holds precisely between a particular property instance a...Universals, not tropes, best explain why distinct substances share genuinely ide...

    Similar

    The dependence relation holds precisely between a particular property ...85%A particular property instance is ontologically dependent on the subst...81%Talking about properties in general and substances in general obscures...80%A particular substance can exist without a given property instance, be...80%

    Source

    AI-extracted1/3 agreementValid
    SEP: substance
    View source passageHide passage
    This problem can be overcome by more careful expression of the point, making it clear that we are not talking about properties in general and substances in general, but about particular instances or cases of a property and the particular objects to which they belong. A particular property instance cannot exist and could not have existed without the substance of which it is a property, but the particular substance can exist and could have existed without that property instance. Thus, a particular
    Extraction notes

    Validity: Extracted via Max plan + API grounding/validity checks

    Details

    Type
    claim
    Perspectives
    3 (1 for, 2 against)
    Edits
    1 edit