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    The candidate for this initiation should begin devoting h... — Carmelics
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    The candidate for this initiation should begin devoting himself to the beauties of the body as early as possible.

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    • 1.The candidate's efforts must be rewarded.
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    • 2.Early devotion to bodily beauty is necessary for the efforts to be rewarded.
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    • 1.Plotinus argues that beauty of soul precedes and grounds bodily beauty, making corporeal devotion a metaphysically inferior starting point.
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    • 2.Beginning with bodily beauty risks fixating the soul at the lowest rung of the Platonic ascent, producing lovers of spectacle rather than lovers of wisdom.
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    • 1.Aristotle's habituation theory holds that early moral formation shapes character toward its object, making early devotion to bodily beauty likely to entrench superficial valuation.
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    • 2.If virtue requires perceiving beauty in actions and souls as primary, then orienting early education toward bodies cultivates a disposition incompatible with eudaimonia.
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    The candidate for this initiation cannot, if his efforts are to be rewarded, begin too early to devote himself to the beauties of the body. First of all, if his preceptor instructs him as he should, he will fall in love with the beauty of one individual body, so that his passion may give life to noble discourse. Next he must consider how nearly related the beauty of any one body is to the beauty of any other, and he will see that if he is to devote himself to loveliness of form it will be absurd
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