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    The claim conflates the conditions for perfect survival w... — Carmelics
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    Challenges→Survival in the memory and honor of the community provides a major consolation only if one is optimistic concerning the persistence and continued memory of the community, as well as the accuracy and justice of their judgments.

    The claim conflates the conditions for perfect survival with the conditions for sufficient consolation, a standard Aristotelian scholarship on posthumous harm, following Pitcher and Feinberg, explicitly rejects.

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    • 1.Pitcher and Feinberg distinguish posthumous harm from requirements for personal survival, avoiding category confusion.
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    • 2.Conflating survival conditions with consolation conditions illicitly smuggles metaphysical claims into evaluative arguments.
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    • 3.A person can be harmed after death without needing to exist to experience that harm, supporting their framework.
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    • 1.The Aristotelian framework may itself conflate epistemic access with metaphysical possibility regarding posthumous states.
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    • 2.Rejecting the distinction doesn't necessarily commit one to conflation; one might deny both conditions matter equally.
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    • 3.The consolation/survival distinction assumes clarity on what constitutes a 'condition for' something, which remains contested.
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    Key Terms

    Aristotelian scholarship(describing the philosophical tradition being referenced)
    Academic work that studies the ideas of Aristotle, an ancient Greek philosopher who thought deeply about ethics and human flourishing.
    Conflates(in argumentation and logic)
    Treats two different things as if they're the same thing, or mixes them up in a way that causes confusion.
    Feinberg(another key scholar cited in discussions of posthumous harm)
    Joel Feinberg, a 20th-century philosopher who wrote extensively about rights, harm, and whether someone can be wronged after their death.
    Pitcher(a key scholar cited in discussions of posthumous harm)
    George Pitcher, a 20th-century philosopher who wrote important work on whether dead people can be harmed.
    Posthumous harm(the philosophical problem being discussed)
    Harm or damage that happens to a person's interests or reputation after they've died.
    necessary and sufficient conditions(in philosophical analysis)
    A 'necessary' condition is something that must be true for something else to happen; a 'sufficient' condition is something that guarantees it will happen. This phrase describes what must be true (and what's enough) for a definition to apply.

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