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    The claim that death requires earthly remains is undermin... — Carmelics
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    The claim that death requires earthly remains is undermined by the twinning scenario.

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    • 1.Parfit's reductionist view holds that personal identity consists in psychological continuity, not the persistence of biological material.
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    • 2.If identity is grounded in psychological continuity rather than bodily substance, then death can occur without any discontinuity of earthly remains.
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    • 3.The twinning case shows biological material can fully persist while the original person ceases, proving remains are neither necessary nor sufficient for death.
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    • 1.Eric Olson's animalist criterion, which ties death to organism cessation, itself implies Adam dies at twinning since Adam-the-organism ceases as a unified biological individual.
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    • 2.Organism-level cessation constitutes genuine death even when constituent matter is redistributed into successor organisms, as occurs in fission and cellular replacement.
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    • 3.Requiring 'earthly remains' conflates the cessation of a particular individual with the destruction of matter, a category error Locke's distinction between person and substance already exposes.
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    • 1.If Adam dies at twinning, Adam's death leaves no earthly remains since Adam's biological material continues in both twins.
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    • 2.Death occurring with no earthly remains is at best odd and at worst false.
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    References to identity in this debate come from objectors to this argument, who apply the argument from fission to a real life version of it, namely, twinning. An embryo might split any time generally before the two-week point in fetal development, and those two embryos could develop into fully formed infant twins. The question for the advocate of the above argument to consider is, in such a case, what happens to the original human being, the embryo we will call Adam? There are only three possib
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