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    The classical 'syntactic engine' is not an adequate model... — Carmelics
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    The classical 'syntactic engine' is not an adequate model for human thought.

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    • 1.Gödel's incompleteness theorems demonstrate that no consistent formal system can prove all truths expressible in its own language.
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    • 2.Human mathematicians can recognize the truth of Gödel sentences that no syntactic engine operating within that system can derive.
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    • 3.A model that cannot replicate the scope of the cognitive capacity it purports to model is inadequate as a model of that capacity.
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    • 1.Dreyfus argued, drawing on Heidegger and Merleau-Ponty, that human cognition is grounded in embodied, pre-reflective coping that resists formalization.
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    • 2.Classical syntactic engines operate over discrete, context-independent symbol tokens and cannot represent the holistic, context-sensitive background of embodied know-how.
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    • 3.Any model that structurally excludes the constitutive substrate of a phenomenon fails to adequately model that phenomenon.
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    • 1.If Searle's Chinese Room argument is correct, classical computers lack understanding.
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    • 2.Human thought essentially involves understanding.
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    • 3.A model that lacks a property essential to what it models is not an adequate model.
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    Both (b) and (c) seem to draw out the claim that a material system lacks understanding. John Searle’s famous ‘Chinese Room’ argument (Searle 1980; see also the entry on Chinese room argument) seems to support this conclusion, at least if the material system takes the form of a classical computer, manipulating symbols according to rules. Searle imagines himself in a room with a letter box through which strings of symbols are posted in, and, following a book of rules, he puts out symbols whic
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