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    It is not the case that The concept of a right emerged simultaneously with reflective awareness of social norms, not at any later historically traceable point.

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    • 1.Awareness of a binding norm or permission does not entail possession of the concept 'right' as a distinct, individuated entitlement held by a subject.
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    • 2.Wittgenstein and Anscombe argue that 'rights-talk' is a specific moral vocabulary that emerged historically, not a conceptual necessity latent in all norm-recognition.
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    • 3.Anthropological evidence from Hohfeld-analyzed pre-modern societies shows duty-frameworks operating coherently without any correlative rights-concept being articulated or implied.
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    • 1.Michel Villey's historical thesis holds that subjective rights as a concept were invented by Ockham in the 14th century and absent from Roman and Greek legal thought.
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    • 2.If ancient legal systems governed entitlements without the concept of a subjective right, then reflective norm-awareness does not entail rights-concept awareness.
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    • 3.The supporting argument conflates the functional role that rights later came to play with the conceptual apparatus required to recognize that role as rights-bearing.
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    • 1.Even the most primitive social orders must include rules specifying that certain individuals or groups have special permission to perform certain actions.
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    • 2.Even the most rudimentary human communities must have rules specifying that some are entitled to tell others what they must do.
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    • 3.Such rules ascribe rights.
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