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    It is not the case that The distinction between intended and merely foreseen effects cannot bear full moral weight when the foreseen effects are structurally guaranteed outcomes of the punitive system itself.

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    • 1.The intention/foresight distinction remains morally significant even for certain outcomes—it reflects different moral relationships between agent and harm.
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    • 2.Collapsing intention into foresight makes all system participants equally culpable, eliminating meaningful moral differentiation between designers and users.
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    • 3."Structurally guaranteed" is often retrospectively identified; treating it as foreseen risks holding designers responsible for unforeseeable systemic effects.
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    • 1.If an outcome is mechanically certain given system design, the agent designed that system bears responsibility for it as if directly intended.
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    • 2.Moral agency requires treating predictable structural consequences the same as chosen ones, else designers evade accountability through architecture.
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    • 3.The intention/foresight distinction assumes uncertain futures; when outcomes are structurally guaranteed, this distinction collapses morally.
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