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    It is not the case that The existence of evil does not tell against God's existence and goodness

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    Reasons For

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    Reason for 1 of 2
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    • 1.The epistemic humility argument proves too much: it would equally prevent us from inferring God's existence or goodness from any evidence.
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    • 2.If human cognitive limits bar negative inferences about God, they equally bar positive ones, rendering theistic belief itself unjustified.
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    • 3.Rowe's 1979 evidential argument shows that gratuitous evils like the suffering of Bambi establish a prima facie case no appeal to ignorance dissolves.
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    Reason for 2 of 2
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    • 1.Mackie's logical argument establishes that omnipotence entails the ability to create beings who freely choose good, making moral evil unnecessary.
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    • 2.If God could instantiate a world with significantly less suffering without reducing creaturely freedom, actual suffering constitutes evidence against omnibenevolence.
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    Reasons Against

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    • 1.Humans lack the understanding needed to determine whether any evil in the world is unnecessary
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    • 2.For all humans know, all evil in the world is necessary evil
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    • 3.It is arrogant to question God's existence and goodness given human ignorance of the infinite complexities of creation
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