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    It is not the case that The First Being has no form.

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    Reasons For

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    • 1.The hylomorphic axiom that form requires matter applies only to sublunary composites, not to separate intellects or divine beings in Aristotelian cosmology.
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    • 2.Al-Farabi's own emanationist hierarchy treats the separate intellects as immaterial forms, suggesting formhood does not entail materiality.
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    • 3.Denying the First Being any form risks collapsing it into pure indeterminate privation, undermining its role as the source of all formal determination in creation.
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    Reason for 2 of 2
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    • 1.Form can exist without matter as pure actuality, as Aristotle argues in Metaphysics Lambda where the Unmoved Mover is identified as pure form.
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    • 2.If the First Being is pure actuality (as al-Farabi himself holds), it exemplifies the highest form of formal being rather than lacking form entirely.
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    Reasons Against

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    • 1.Nothing can have a form unless it also has an underlying matter.
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    • 2.The First Being has no underlying matter (no material cause).
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