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    The gift analogy fails to justify the claim that God's gi... — Carmelics
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    The gift analogy fails to justify the claim that God's giving of life prohibits suicide, because a genuinely given gift becomes the property of the recipient and the giver retains no claim over its use.

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    • 1.God is said to bestow life upon humans as a gift.
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    • 2.A gift, genuinely given, becomes the property of its recipient.
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    • 3.Once given, the original giver has no remaining claim on what the recipient does with the gift.
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    analogy(Contrasted with homology, which concerns correspondence due to common ancestry.)
    A relation based on functional similarity between structures, which can occur despite different evolutionary origins.
    justify(refers to reasons that would make God's allowance of suffering reasonable)
    To provide good reasons or a valid explanation for why something is acceptable or necessary.
    prohibits(The argument claims God's gift of life forbids or makes suicide wrong)
    Formally forbids or bans something; says it's not allowed.
    property(Locke's demonstration of the moral proposition 'Where there is no property, there is no injustice.')
    A right to something.
    retain(general language)
    To keep holding onto or continue having something.
    suicide(Framing of the challenge to rational suicide)
    A choice to end one's life

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    Another common analogy asserts that God bestows life upon us as a gift, and it would be a mark of ingratitude or neglect to reject that gift by taking our lives. The obvious weakness with this “gift analogy” is that a gift, genuinely given, does not come with conditions such as that suggested by the analogy, i.e., once given, a gift becomes the property of its recipient and its giver no longer has any claim on what the recipient does with this gift. It may perhaps be imprudent to waste an especi
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