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    The idea that God could place objects within absolute spa... — Carmelics
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    The idea that God could place objects within absolute space with one orientation rather than another is not incoherent, but God would lack a reason for doing so.

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    • 1.The conceivability of God choosing an orientation within absolute space does not entail that such a choice has a sufficient reason.
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    • 2.Absence of sufficient reason is distinct from incoherence.
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    • 1.God's perfect goodness constitutes a sufficient reason for any act that realizes a distinct, coherent state of affairs, regardless of symmetry.
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    • 2.Clarke argued against Leibniz that God's will itself can be a sufficient reason, even absent external differentiating conditions.
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    • 3.If God's volition is a perfection, then the act of placing objects in one orientation rather than another expresses that perfection sufficiently.
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    • 1.Buridan's ass cases show that rational agents can act without differentiating reasons when alternatives are strictly equivalent, without irrationality.
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    • 2.Leibniz's Principle of Sufficient Reason, which underwrites the 'no reason' objection, is itself contested as an a priori necessity rather than a logical truth.
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    • 3.If PSR is not a necessary truth, the inference from 'God lacks a differentiating reason' to 'God cannot act' does not follow.
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    The view that space cannot exist independently of objects at any given instant does seem to entail that space cannot be utterly devoid of objects. Leibniz thinks that space is the order of the actual and possible relations among objects, so he has the resources to say that space can contain empty sectors—see New Essays, 127, and L 5: 43—but it seems he cannot claim that space is altogether empty, for then object relations would be absent. Yet this view seems perfectly compatible with the idea th
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