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    It is not the case that The inference from 'knowing what time it is at multiple times' to 'undergoing change' only applies to beings whose mode of presence is itself temporal.

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    • 1.Even atemporal beings can instantiate incompatible properties at different times relative to temporal observers, constituting genuine change.
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    • 2.The claim assumes a non-standard metaphysics where temporal presence is necessary for change, but change might be fundamental to all properties.
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    • 3.Knowing different facts about X at different times does entail X has changed, regardless of X's mode of presence—change is relational.
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    • 1.Change requires temporal succession: knowing different facts at different times only constitutes change if one actually exists through those moments.
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    • 2.Atemporal beings (like abstract objects) don't experience temporal passage, so multiple temporal coordinates don't entail change for them.
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    • 3.The inference conflates epistemic access (knowing facts at times) with ontological change (actually undergoing transformation).
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