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    The intensity of guilt or shame is an unreliable threshol... — Carmelics
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    Challenges→Self-forgiveness is morally appropriate when a wrongdoer's guilt, shame, or self-loathing reach significantly high levels.

    The intensity of guilt or shame is an unreliable threshold for moral appropriateness, since high distress may reflect psychological fragility rather than genuine moral reform.

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    • 1.Severe emotional distress can result from anxiety disorders, trauma, or neurotic patterns unrelated to moral comprehension or genuine behavioral change.
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    • 2.Moral appropriateness should track actual wrongdoing and corrective intent, not emotional intensity, which varies based on individual psychology and temperament.
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    • 3.Confusing intense guilt with moral progress risks rewarding performative suffering while ignoring those who reform quietly without psychological anguish.
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    • 1.Moral emotions like guilt evolved specifically to signal genuine wrongdoing; dismissing them as unreliable treats a core moral faculty as essentially malfunctioning.
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    • 2.The claim conflates two distinct questions: whether guilt-intensity measures moral reform (empirical) versus whether it ever matters morally (normative).
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    • 3.Without relying partly on emotional responses, we lack access to others' internal moral states and must depend on behaviorally unobservable sincerity or intent.
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