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    It is not the case that the memory of the damned remain with those in Heaven

    Aggregate Confidence:40%

    Reasons For

    2 perspectives
    Reason for 1 of 2
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    • The memory of the damned will be erased from the minds of those in Heaven
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    Reason for 2 of 2
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    • If the above is true, then it is not that the memory of the damned remain with those in Heaven
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    Reasons Against

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    Reason against 1 of 2
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    • 1.Aquinas holds that the blessed in Heaven possess perfect intellectual knowledge, including awareness of the damned, as part of their beatific vision.
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    • 2.Perfect beatific knowledge cannot be diminished or selectively erased without compromising the perfection of the blessed state itself.
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    • 3.Therefore, the memory of the damned persists in Heaven not as grief but as clear, ordered intellectual apprehension of divine justice.
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    Reason against 2 of 2
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    • 1.Jonathan Edwards argues in 'Sinners in the Hands of an Angry God' that Heaven's joy is partly constituted by the contrast with Hell's punishment.
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    • 2.A contrast-dependent joy logically requires that the blessed retain memory of the damned, since erasure would eliminate the very contrast Edwards identifies.
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