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    The MKC argument misses the mark — Carmelics
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    The MKC argument misses the mark

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    • 1.Any hidden variable theory must ultimately make contact with measurement outcomes to be physically meaningful, per Einstein's operationalist constraint.
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    • 2.Possessed values that are in principle undetectable by any finite-precision measurement are empirically equivalent to no values at all.
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    • 3.Therefore, the distinction between 'possessed' and 'measured' values collapses under operationalist scrutiny, making MKC a genuine challenge to KS.
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    • 1.Bohr's complementarity principle entails that quantum properties only become determinate through their experimental context, not prior to measurement.
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    • 2.If contextuality is physically real—as KS assumes—then finite measurement precision is part of that context, not an external limitation to be dismissed.
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    • 3.MKC correctly targets the physical interpretation of KS by exposing that 'possessed value' realism smuggles in an idealization KS proponents have not adequately justified.
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    • 1.The original KS argument works for possessed values, not measured values
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    • 2.The MKC argument deals with finite precision of measurement
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    • 3.Possessed values are not subject to measurement precision limitations
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    (3) The KS theorem, by its mathematical nature, is not empirically testable. However, we could, along the lines of the previous paragraphs, try to measure a subset of a suitable KS-uncolourable set. Especially, it should be possible to produce cases along the lines of Clifton’s example (3.5) where QM and a noncontextual HV theory make measurably different predictions. It seems as if such cases could provide empirical tests of whether Nature is contextual (though not whether such contextuality is
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