Skip to content
Carmelics
TopicsThinkersChangesContributorsLoading account…

    Carmelics

    A reasoning platform. Break down any belief into clear reasons, explore both sides, and weigh the evidence honestly.

    Navigate

    • Topics
    • Search
    • Recent Changes
    • Contribute
    • How It Works
    • Glossary
    • Thinkers
    • Contributors
    • About
    • Statistics
    • Terms
    • Privacy

    Database

    Statements
    —
    Perspectives
    —
    Topics
    —

    Press ? for keyboard shortcuts

    LoyalLoyalJusticeJustice
    Made withinDC&Austin
    Statements
    321,452
    Perspectives
    108,905
    Topics
    42
    The move to invoke consequentialist considerations may be... — Carmelics
    Home/Justice & Punishment
    HistoryEditSee Inverse

    The move to invoke consequentialist considerations may be too quick.

    Justice & Punishment
    ?Rate how convincing each reason is below to see the overall strength.
    0 reasons for
    1 reason against

    Reasons Against

    1 perspective
    Reason against
    ?
    • Even if our ability to discern proportionality constraints is crude in absolute terms, comparative proportionality may leave relatively little leeway with regard to what punishments are morally defensible in a given jurisdiction.
      ?

      Think about whether this reason is strong or weak

    Sign in or register to share your perspective on this statement.

    Topics

    Justice & Punishment

    Related

    Even if our ability to discern proportionality constraints is crude in absolute ...

    Similar

    Next step

    Based on where you are in your exploration

    Strongest counterpoint
    Explore the most compelling reason on the other side.
    Retributivism has a consequentialist element.81%Standard consequentialist assessments of terrorism are too permissive.76%There must be nonconsequentialist constraining principles that do not ...76%The pursuit of that aim must be constrained by nonconsequentialist pri...76%

    Source

    AI-extracted2/3 agreementValid
    SEP: justice-retributive
    main passage
    View source passageHide passage
    This view may move too quickly to invoke consequentialist considerations. Even if our ability to discern proportionality constraints is crude in absolute terms, comparative proportionality may leave relatively little leeway with regard to what punishments are morally defensible in a given jurisdiction (Robinson 2003; von Hirsch & Ashworth 2005: 180–185; von Hirsch 2011: 212; and section 2 of the supplementary document Challenges to the Notion of Retributive Proportionality). Nonetheless, insofar as the constraints of proportionality seem inherently vague, retributivists may have to make ...
    Extraction notes

    Validity: The passage presents the premise about comparative proportionality leaving little leeway as a reason why the move to invoke consequentialist considerations "may move too quickly," which constitutes an attack on that move, and this argument is explicitly stated in the source passage.

    Confidence: The text explicitly says 'this view may move too quickly to invoke consequentialist considerations' and offers the comparative proportionality point as a reason.

    Details

    Type
    claim
    Perspectives
    1 (0 for, 1 against)
    Edits
    1 edit