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    The mutual commerce of motions and passions is what const... — Carmelics
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    The mutual commerce of motions and passions is what constitutes the mind-body union.

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    • 1.Motion is a mode of matter, so the body is capable of receiving and transmitting local motions.
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    • 2.Passion is a mode of the mind, so the mind is capable of varying passions.
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    • 3.The similitude and relation between mind and body consists in action and passion.
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    • 1.Union requires more than causal commerce; mere interaction between distinct substances does not constitute their metaphysical unity.
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    • 2.On Leibniz's pre-established harmony, mind and body exhibit perfect mutual correspondence without any actual causal commerce whatsoever.
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    • 3.If harmony without commerce suffices for apparent union, then commerce cannot be what constitutes union in any robust metaphysical sense.
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    • 1.Descartes himself acknowledged in correspondence with Elisabeth that the union is a primitive notion irreducible to either thought or extension.
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    • 2.Defining union through motion and passion presupposes the very relation it purports to explain, since passion already implies a receiver united to a cause.
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    • 3.A constitutive account of mind-body union cannot invoke passion as a primitive without circularity, as passion logically presupposes the union it is meant to ground.
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    Le Grand described the mind-body union in terms directly borrowed from Descartes. However, Le Grand attempted to explicate further than did Descartes the nature of the mind-body union. According to Le Grand, there are three kinds of union, each possessing its own principle which effects that union: the first is that of two minds whose principle of union is love; the second is that of two physical bodies whose principle of union is local presence; and the third is that of the mind and body whose
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