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    It is not the case that The Necessary Existent can be identified with the deity

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    • 1.Necessary existence, as established by Avicenna's modal ontology, entails only logical indispensability, not intentionality, will, or providential care.
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    • 2.The deity of Abrahamic theology is essentially characterized by intentional agency, which cannot be derived from metaphysical necessity alone.
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    • 3.Therefore, the Necessary Existent satisfies only a subset of the deity's defining attributes, making identification a category error.
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    Reason for 2 of 2
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    • 1.Kant's critique in the Critique of Pure Reason demonstrates that 'necessary existence' is a logical predicate that cannot ground determinate theological attributes.
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    • 2.Oneness and simplicity entailed by necessary existence are purely formal properties that are equally compatible with an impersonal absolute, as in Spinoza's Deus sive Natura.
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    • 3.Formal attribute-sharing is insufficient for numerical identity when the underlying conceptions of the referents differ essentially in kind.
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    Reasons Against

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    • 1.Necessary existence entails oneness, simplicity, and goodness
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    • 2.These attributes are the defining attributes of the deity
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