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    It is not the case that The normativity objection against contractarianism overlooks a significant feature of Gauthier's theory

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    • 1.The normativity objection claims contractarianism builds in no concern for others
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    • 2.Appeal to others' concerns is built into both the Lockean Proviso and the bargaining theory from which moral norms are derived
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    • 3.A theory that incorporates concern for others in its foundational structure is not purely self-interested
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    • 1.Gauthier's constrained maximization requires agents to dispositionally internalize cooperative norms, not merely simulate compliance when monitored.
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    • 2.A disposition that genuinely alters motivational structure constitutes normative constraint, not mere strategic calculation per Gauthier's 'Morals by Agreement' ch.6.
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    • 3.The normativity objection conflates the genetic origin of a norm in self-interest with its subsequent action-guiding authority over the agent.
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    • 1.The Lockean Proviso in Gauthier's system prohibits bettering oneself through worsening others' positions, establishing an other-regarding baseline constraint.
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    • 2.Rawls' difference principle similarly derives other-regarding obligations from a self-interested original position, yet is not dismissed as lacking normativity.
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    • 3.Consistency demands that if Rawlsian contractarianism generates genuine normativity from self-interested premises, Gauthier's structurally parallel derivation must also do so.
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