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    The objective stance, as Strawson argued, is itself a for... — Carmelics
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    Challenges→It can be justified to incapacitate dangerous offenders even if they are not morally responsible for what they have done or for the danger they present.

    The objective stance, as Strawson argued, is itself a form of exclusion from the moral community that cannot be fully reconciled with punitive or quasi-punitive incapacitation.

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    • 1.Adopting objective stance suspends reactive attitudes essential to moral community membership, treating persons as mere objects to manage.
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    • 2.Incapacitation justified by objective analysis inherently denies the subject's moral status as responsible agent worthy of respect.
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    • 3.Strawson shows moral community requires second-person engagement; objective stance systematically precludes this relational recognition.
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    • 1.Incapacitation can be justified non-punitively on public safety grounds without requiring objective stance or moral community exclusion.
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    • 2.Some dangerous individuals lack capacities for moral reciprocity; objective stance may be epistemically appropriate, not exclusionary.
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    • 3.Strawson's reactive attitudes are psychologically natural, not morally mandatory; societies may justly use alternative frameworks sometimes.
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